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Another posting on the Dog "Mystery Bug" Has anyone else had a problem in the last two weeks?
Please bear with me on this. As those of you who have been following this with me know, it is a booger, period. We are still dealing with it in many of the rescues. My vet has several cases hospitalized right now, monitoring all changes.Remember: this is not just puppies. This is dogs of all ages, vaccinated or not. Has anyone had a dog get sick with "parvo-like" symptoms at the start, in the past two weeks? If so, what were the symptoms as the disease process progressed and what, if anything, was the final diagnosis. What treatments did you use? Did you have the "distemper" or the "canine flu" symptoms that some have reported? Did the vet find any bacterial infections?
Also, was there a vaccination given around the time your dog got sick? If so, where did you get the vaccine?
Duffie has recovered other than being left a little weak. The vet and I went back over the duration of the problem and decided exactly what the symptoms show. We not only used Duffie for this, but included the other dogs who have presented with the same symptoms, because there are points where the illness seems to go different directions in different dogs.
It always begins with Parvo-like symptoms. But it is NOT Parvo. The aggressive treatment used for Parvo does, however, start the recovery process. And the only thing you can do, just like with Parvo, is treat the symptoms.
Once the dog appears to be recovering and the owner is convinced they were indeed dealing with Parvo, regardless of what the SNAP test said, the next round hits, and it looks, in some, oddly like distemper. There is the runny nose and green discharge. and within the first hours, seizures can begin. (This does not happen in every case, but has presented in some) It is NOT distemper. Continue aggressive therapy at this point with fluid, anti-nausea meds, anti-diarrheal meds… all the things you do for Parvo. At this point, regardless of anything else, you will begin to notice the diarrhea has changed. It will now appear to be a bacterial infection and there may or may not be blood in the feces. What is amazing is that there is anything in the dog to come out because the stomach is well-rested. But it does come in small amounts. And at this point the dog is very, very sick. Antibiotics are begun. Flagyl worked best for Duffie. The others had little effect. There are several bacteria that have been found in various dogs so, guys, this illness is still a mystery. It is like someone picked up a symptom book and randomly threw them at dogs.
Different antibiotics are going to work on different dogs because it is never the same bacteria. The pups in the rescue a few miles from me were put on the older drug SMZ. That seems to be helping.
Between the two of us, we lost 11 pups to this and have had a lot of 9older dogs get sick. Duffie was never exposed to the rescue animals and, in fact, got sick a full two weeks after I lost the last pup that was sick. I, of course, used bleach on everything and I used it full strength in the end. I donned gloves and old clothes and scrubbed.
I am very thankful that it seems to have been handled at my house and in my kennel, but I know there are others dealing and we do need to find out what is causing this. If one particular bacteria could be isolated, we would know, but with so many dogs having the same symptoms and then testing for different bacteria, it makes it dumbfounding.
Again, dogs are dying. Vaccinated, well-cared for dogs are getting very sick and dying without care. Please, please, those of you in rescue know what to do, but everyone else, get your dog to the vet or lose him. This is a terrible virus/ bacterial infection and requires an entire arsenal of treatment.
Please, those of you who are not serious, do not waste my time right now with other things. This disease is killing dogs and we are trying to find answers here. I am not trying to be mean, but this is very serious. Also, please, those of you who have dogs: At the first sign of sickness, get to the vet. The earlier the treatment begins, the better the prognosis. And the prognosis is bleak unless you are aggressive. Then your chances at best are 50/50. If there is an outbreak of this in your area, keep your dogs home please. If they are not sick, let’s keep them well. Call the vet before you go and let them know you think your dog may be contagious so they can usher you to a room.
@Cookie: I am very familiar with that group and I had not thought about this. Thank you. I lost a dog in September to Cushings/Diabetes. We fought it for four years and she had a good life. In fact, that was Duffie’s sister. I will report this to the site. You are right. They will at the very least be interested in this.
I am in Southeastern NC. But this is in other areas as well. It is not flu. It has all the symptoms of these ailments and presents as Parvo in the beginning. Duffie never got the runny nose nor the "difstemper" symptoms but some of the pups I had in my rescue did.
@Miss Manners: that does make sense and I have purchased some tablets from a very nice person I met through the list you sent me…THANKS!!! And I believe that is one of the things that really helped Duffie. 24 hours after beginning the tablets he was feeling better. And they are all natural…go figure. My vet was so impressed at the turn around he has the name I mentioned and is goign to give the person a call. As I said to you before… we never know until we get down to no choices left.
It occurs to me that the bacteria in the second round may be different with each dog simply because the first (virus/bactera) lowers the immune system so much that the dog picks up whatever happens to be in his environment as a secondary infection (hope that makes sense.)
Maybe the second bacterial infection is not part of the disease, but just a result of the lowered immune response.
Just throwing out thoughts, here.
Have you tried repopulating the gut with beneficial bacteria? Im wondering if that might help crowd out the bad stuff, and I know any serious round of antibiotics will do damage to the beneficial bacteria.
ms manners | Feb 06, 2010
yes I had with both of my dogs
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FatherTed | Feb 06, 2010
Please, both of you, join the CanineCushings-AutoimmuneCare@yahoogroups.com list and report this. Go to Yahoogroups.com and join, it’s free, then type in the above. This sounds like something that list would know a great deal about.
Cookie | Feb 06, 2010
There’s been the dog flu around (no dog is immune)…but only about 3% die from this.
The greyhound tracks had something bad awhile back.
I’ve had several bouts of bad diarrhea around here, but metronizole sets it straight.
Where are you located? This could be a clue.
Annie | Feb 06, 2010
I am wondering if it could be a variance of Corona? There is a recent strain that is both intestinal and respiratory.
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Canine respiratory coronavirus
Recently, a second type of canine coronavirus (Group II) has been shown to cause respiratory disease in dogs.Known as canine respiratory coronavirus (CRCoV) and found to be similar to strain OC43 of bovine and human coronaviruses, it was first isolated in the United Kingdom in 2003 from lung samples of dogs and has since been found on the European mainland and in Japan.[ A serological study in 2006 has also shown antibodies to CRCoV to be present in dogs in Canada and the United States.
Chetco | Feb 06, 2010
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